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Visualization of Polyhedral Inner Chambers with Psychosocial Implications

AI-assisted exploration of neglected underlying patterns of order in 3D

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Introduction
Framing internal polyhedral structures by intersecting space diagonals
Progressive elaboration of generic polyhedron analysis and visualization
Comment on polyhedron analyzer by AI
Visualizations in 3D of internal structures of regular polyhedra
Summary of operation of polyhedron analysis and visualization
Critical comment on methodological inadequacies and future possibilities
Fourth dimension correspondences to "internal" polyhedra?
Cognitive and psychosocial implications pf polyhedra
Commentary on use of 4 different AIs for polyhedral geometry
Visual design, aesthetics, dynamics and sonification
References


Introduction

There is a basic set of symmetrical polyhedra of which many were known in Ancient Greece. Their degrees of symmetry have long made them a focus for architecture and the symbolism of sacred geometry -- as well as an inspiration for patterns of order and coherence in many domains. Those considered here are the 5 regular Platonic polyhedra (tetrahedron, cube, octahedron, dodecahedron and icosahedron) and the more complex set of 13 semi-regular Archimedean polyhedra.

As geometrical structures in 3D, most have diagonals between diametrically opposed points. The focus here is not on those axial diagonals, nor on the links between vertices on the surface of the structure (known as face diagonals). The internal links between all the many vertices of a polyhedron are known as space diagonals. Of those, the focus here is on the non-axial diagonals and the manner in which they may intersect, thereby defining and framing one or more internal polyhedra -- typically concentric (around the centre through which pass the axial diagonals). Of potentially greatest interest is the internal polyhedron -- an "inner chamber" -- framed by the longest internal non-axial diagonals.

The question is what such a "hidden" inner polyhedron might imply symbolically and cognitively. Being "inside" and underlying, the question is how that perspective relates to what is "outside" and superficial (Interface challenge of inside-outside, insight-outsight, information-outformation, 2017; Alternation of worldview between "inside-outside" and "outside-inside", 2013; Cognitive osmosis through topological eversion and interlocking tori -- framing outside-inside otherwise, 2017). The nesting of polyhedra in this way is reminiscent of the iconic visualization in 3D presented by the astronomer Johannes Kepler (Mysterium Cosmographicum, 1596) -- virtually the first attempt since Copernicus to indicate the physical truth of heliocentrism. Any 2D representation, as by a mandala or yantra, could then be recognized as a "flattened" perspective of entangled 3D configurations.

Although apparently abstruse, the challenge of perspective such inner structures represent could provide a key to vexatious issues of "oversight" and "coordination" in governance. To the extent that multi-dimensional polyhedral structures have been recognized by neuroscience as configurations of neurons within the brain, visualization of such changing patterns offers a distinctive approach to degrees of comprehension. More provocatively this suggests a case for exploring "nuclear memetics" in contrast to nuclear weaponry and defensive proecupation with nuclear warfare.

It appears that relatively little is referenced concerning the space diagonals, although it is acknowledged that they have application in a variety of domains -- with implications for others. There do not appear to be catalogues of the inner polyhedra which they may frame and subtend, notably with respect to the fundamental set of regular polyhedra. Whilst formula may indeed exist defining the number of space diagonals, the further challenge is how any information about a fundamental polyhedron may be analyzed by computer in order to provide comprehensible visualizations of any inner structures. How many inner polyhedra are framed by the iconic regular polyhedra -- and how are they configured? This exercise follows from a less systematic approach by which a series of 3D visualizations were generated (Eliciting Insight within Complex Polyhedral Configurations of Concepts, 2025). Those results are reproduced in what follows.

The approach taken here is to use AI facilities to analyze information on each regular polyhedron, to identify and define the space diagonals, to determine the coordinates of their intersections, and to visualize the results in 3D accessible via the web. The challenge was variously submitted to four AIs (ChatGPT 4o, DeepSeek, Claude 3.5, Perplexity).

The exercise was undertaken with limited geometrical insight (or the associated mathematical skills) -- and with only a degree of knowledge of the requisite programming in 3D for web representation (in this case X3D). To compensate for these limitations, the question was how AI skills could be applied to the challenge, notably the generation of a Python script which could do the analysis and generate the requisite X3D file enabling visualization (using H3DViewer or FreeWRL).

What follows is therefore a report on what was achieved and its limitations -- in what is effectively a work in progress -- despite considerable assistance from various AIs. The results could encourage others with greater skills and insight to improve the process. Portions of the report will only be of interest to those seeking to replicate the procedure and improve upon it -- with or without the rapidly developing skills of AI. Of more general interest are the visualizations presented and the psychosocial implications of the "inner chambers" detected with respect to neglected patterns of order.

The responses from AI in this exploration have been framed as grayed areas. Given the length of the document to which the exchanges gave rise, the form of presentation has itself been treated as an experiment -- in anticipation of the future implication of AI into research documents. Only the "questions" to AI are rendered immediately visible -- with the response by AI hidden unless specifically requested by the reader (a facility not operational in PDF variants of the page, in contrast with the original).

Reservations and commentary on the process of interaction with AI to that end have been discussed separately (Methodological comment on experimental use of AI, 2024). Editing responses has focused only on formatting, leaving the distractions of any excessive "algorithmic flattery" for the reader to navigate (as in many social situations where analogous "artificial" conventions are common). Readers are of course free to amend the questions asked, or to frame other related questions -- whether with the same AI, with others, or with those that become available in the future. In endeavouring to elicit insight from the world's resources via AI, the process calls for critical comment in contrast with more traditional l methods for doing so.

In making very extensive use of AIs to develop a generic approach to the visualization of the internal structure of regular polyhedra, the limited success offers insights into the current constraints in the use of AI as a "cognitive prosthetic" in a domain where its advantages might be assumed to be evident. Whilst the visualizations presented are an indication of a degree of success, the failure to enhance the device with operational features to facilitate its use is interesting in its own right -- as with the failure to provide analytical geometric data in which confidence is warranted. Many such features have been built into the device, but their operation is currently questionable. This is an invitation to those with greater skills and insights -- or more capable of debugging the device (with or without AI assistance).

Framing internal polyhedral structures by intersecting space diagonals

Question to Perplexity: What are polyhedral space diagonals and how can they be visualized

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Question to ChatGPT: How can the geometrical challenge of identifying internal structures of regular polyhedra be framed

ChatGPT 4o

Geometrical Challenge: Internal Structures of Regular and Archimedean Polyhedra: The objective is to detect and visualize internal vertex-to-vertex linkages within a given polyhedron, excluding superficial edges and opposite-vertex connections. The focus is on:

  • Detecting intersection points where two or more internal edges meet.
  • Determining whether these intersections frame a recognizable internal polyhedron (such as a dual or a nested structure).
  • Filtering out shorter internal edges to reveal the most meaningful internal connectivity.
  • Presenting the results in 3D (X3D), embedding the internal structure within the contextual polyhedron.

A distinction can be made between an internal polyhedron framed only by the vertices of intersecting space diagonals and those framed by space diagonals between two such points of intersection. In the second case both the vertices and the connecting the edge contribute to the framing of the internal polyhedron. In the first case it is only the vertices which feature in that polyhedron -- the edges between them are then implied. The following exercise endeavoured to identify both cases with priority given to the first. The second case is especially notable with mutually orthogonal vertex-to-vertex edges.

Animations of details of "inner chambers", as defined by link patterns of different length
(Quest for internal substructures of significance in the 48-fold Mumonkan, 2025)
Framed geodesic sphere Framed cube Octahedron (unfitted) Multiple internal structures

Progressive elaboration of generic polyhedron analysis and visualization

After a considerable amount of experimentation using both the X3D files and the OFF files of the regular polyhedra -- as exported from the extremely valuable resources of Stella4D -- a preliminary summary of the procedure was requested

Question: Could you provide a summary of the procedure as it has now been developed

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The initial development with ChatGPT was terminated because of a period of considerable server delays in the question/answer process. The challenge and the script were then submitted to DeepSeek

Question to DeepSeek: There is widespread admiration for your mathematical/coding abilities. Can I submit the following challenge for your comment: The objective is to detect and visualize internal vertex-to-vertex linkages within a given polyhedron, excluding superficial edges and opposite-vertex connections. The focus is on: Detecting intersection points where three or more internal edges meet. Determining whether these intersections form a recognizable internal polyhedron (such as a dual or a nested structure). Filtering out shorter internal edges to reveal the most meaningful internal connectivity. Presenting the results in X3D, embedding the internal structure within the contextual polyhedron.

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Rather than continue with DeepSeek, and knowing that Claude 3.5 generated Python script in a somewhat more convivial manner, the challenge and the script were switched to that AI. A particcular constraint with DeepSeek is that it appears to limit the number of successive qestions that may be asked before offering the message: Server busy; try later.

Question to Claude 3.5: Could you comment on how you could assist with the following challenge. The objective is to detect and visualize internal vertex-to-vertex linkages within a given polyhedron, excluding superficial edges and opposite-vertex connections. The focus is on: Detecting intersection points where three or more internal edges meet. Determining whether these intersections form a recognizable internal polyhedron (such as a dual or a nested structure). Filtering out shorter internal edges to reveal the most meaningful internal connectivity. Presenting the results in X3D, embedding the internal structure within the contextual polyhedron.

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Question to Claude 3.5: I will start by applying the script to all the Archimedean polyhedra. Since we have had to switch conversations, the following request may be problematic for you. In my write up of this exercise I would like to include your perspective on the progressive learnings in relation to the outcome and future possibilities mentioned. But can you do this across conversations or can you infer such a summary from the current status of the script.

A further complexification would have been to convert a layer of connected vertices into a representation of the internal polyhedron it defines. Given the complexity of the current script this would be imprudent at this time. In principle it could be achieved by using those coordinates with an IndexedFaceSet whose transparency could be dynamically modified. With greater complexity, this could be done for concentric internal structures. A simpler approach might be to manually embed a separate X3D polyhedral model of the discovered internal structure within what is generated -- avoiding fiddling with the existing script.

I appreciate your clarification of the possibility, but at this stage a degree of closure is required such as to frame that future possibility -- especially when some of minor defects can then be elminiated

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Following extensive development and testing of the script, with a degree of sucess but with notable failure to resolve key issues, the script was submitted to ChatGPT where a similar process was undertaken -- but again with a failure to resolve some key issues. The lengthy exchange was interrupted with achievements summarized by ChatGPT as follows

Question: I am not sure how much continuity you have retained through this process. However since I will be writing up and posting my learnings I would appreciate any summary of the process and its constraints rom your perspective

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Question: Given the need to start a new chat, could you summarize the achievements again. I think we need to take a step back and review the process. We have lost the functiionality which generated matrices and the relabelling, and we are in a cycle which is seemingly unable to address the Tier 2 issue appropriately -- and any revisions are associated with a succession of small errors requiring correction. Should we abandon the exercise

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Question: Unfortunately my sense is that we have reverted to an almost working version several times and endeavoured to make small repairs. My question is whether to writeup the exercise using the partially working version and hope for successfully debugging at a later date

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Following a late transfer of the developemnt to Claude 3.7, a useful summary was made of the application.

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It became clear for both ChatGPT and Claude that the script was in good shape for various polyhedra. However one interesting flaw in the processing of the geometry -- which the AIs were unable to resolve -- was indicated by the failure to process mutually orthogonal intersecting space dialgonals correctly. This was also potentially indicative of a more fundamental issue with regard to miscounting the statistics presented for each polyhedron. The question was addressed to Sergey Bederov (Senior Developer of Cortona3D) who was able to modify the script successfully in the light of the following analysis

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Having circumvented the impasse experienced with the two AIs, the revised script was resubmitted to Claude 3.7 in order to to confirm that there was no miscounting, to clarify the colour coding of the intersecting nodes, and to refine the presentation of statistics for each polyhedron.

Comment on polyhedron analyzer by AI

Question to Perplexity: I have been asking questions about non-axial space diagonals of Archimedean polyhedra. I have a Python script which derives data from a Stella4D X3D model to generate an X3D file highlighting those diagonals. The program has defects. Are you able to review it

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Question to Perplexity: When I manually edit the X3D with an excessive radius for Spheres at 3 connections, the only thing that happens is that the anomalous central sphere has a larger circumsphere. Should I conclude that we are unlikely to converge on a solution with the pattern of changes being made? The problem is well defined geometrically but seems to require a very sophisticated script. My intention is to write up the whole process with visualizations for all Archimedean polyhedra -- however imperfect -- to illustrate what might otherwise be understood to be a simple challenge. I shall include your comments/reservations. Tinkering with the current achievement is an unnecessary utilization of resources

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A persistent defect in the use of the DEF/USE facility in X3D (for convenience in adjusting the visualization) was an anomalous central sphere and cylinder. Although this was finally eliminated by scaling trickery, the DEF/USE approach was subsequently abandoned as indicated by the revised operations summarized below..

Visualizations in 3D of internal structures of regular polyhedra

At various stages, using the scripts progressively generated and refined successively by the AIs (as indicated above), X3D files were produced enabling visual renderings in 3D on the web (tested using H3DViewer or FreeWRL). The X3D files could be manually edited (with a text editor) to change colours and sizes to enable and enhance visualization, most notably by minimizing clutter. The visualizaions below reflect the results of various editing options.

Considerable time was spent with the AIs successively in order to eliminate some obvious defects generated by the scripts -- time variously constrained by AI resource usage limits. This was only partially successful (as noted above and below). Of interest in the experimental mode however was the question as to when the results were "good enough" as a "proof of concept" -- in anticipation of further improvements at a later stage with greater insight from those with appropriate skills. Specific improvements were indeed suggested by the AIs to a script which had unfortunately become relatively complex. These were set aside to avoid including more defects requiring more investment of resources. Most notably among these was rendering visible the faces of the internal polyhedra (as indicated below).

The images below indicate results of application of the script to the 2 Platonic polyhedra which have non-axial space diagonals. Of the simpler variants of the 5 Platonic polyhedra, only 2 (cube and octahedron) have axial diagonals; the tetrahedron has none. The icosahedron on the left below has relatively few intersection points between space diagonals in contrast to the dodecahedron as shown on the right below. Those points closest to the centre, resulting from the longest space diagonals, frame the dual polyhedron in each case -- variously shown as embedded.

The many intersection points at different distances from the centre (as in the case of the dodecahedron) can be recognized as positioned on concentric shells according to their distance from the centre. Of potential interest is the manner in which the space diagonals might be recognized as associated with a stellation of the embedded polyhedron -- a great stellated dodecahedron in the images on the left, and a stellation of the icosahedron on the right (namely the Kepler-Poinsot polyhedra).

"Inner chambers" of key Platonic polyhedra
(with embedded duals and showing shells of of equidistant points of vertex-to-vertex intersections)
Icosahedron
(wireframe embedding of dodecahedron)
Icosahedron
(solid embedding of dodecahedron)
Dodecahedron
(wireframe embedding of icosahedron)
Dodecahedron
(solid embedding of icosahedron)
Dodecahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of an icosahedron Dodecahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of an icosahedron Icosahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of a dodecahedron Icosahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of a dodecahedron
Animations created using data from Stella4D

The following images are indicative of the innermost "chambers" within the set of 13 Archimedean polyhedra -- with those chambers variously framed experimentally by embedded polyhedra. As with the dodecahedron above, concentric shells are indicated, although the intersection points positioned on them are not shown, except in the case of the innermost shell.

Indication of "inner chambers" of truncated tetrahedron
No embedding Embedded octahedron Problematic embedding of truncated tetrahedron
Intersection points of longest internal space diagonals of truncated tetrahedron Octahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of a dodecahedron Truncated tetrahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of a truncated tetrahedron
Animations created using data from Stella4D

The presentation on the left above shows how an array of concentric shells can be visualized within the truncated tetrahedron (white points and edges). Each shell corresponds to the configuration of vertex-to-vertex intersection points equidistant from the centre. The image only shows the points coloured green on the second shell resulting from the longest internal vertex-to-vertex connections. Other intersection points (not shown) result from progressively shorter vertex-to-vertex connections. The central image shows 6 points on the first shell forming an octahedron. The image on the right shows the degree of mismatch of a truncated tetrahedron -- embedded such as to potentially connect the green points. The truncated tetrahedron (like the tetrahedron) is self-dual, suggesting that such an embedding is possible if apprprately transformed.

Indication of "inner chambers" of truncated octahedron and cuboctahedron
Truncated octahedron
with embedded cuboctahedron
Truncated octahedron
with embedded rhombicuboctahedron
Cuboctahedron
with embedded wireframe rhombicuboctahedron
Cuboctahedron
with embedded solid rhombicuboctahedron
Cuboctahedron potentially framed by longest internal space diagonals of a truncated octahedron Rhombicuboctahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of a truncated octahedron Rhombicuboctahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of a cuboctahedron Rhombicuboctahedron framed by longest internal space diagonals of a cuboctahedron
Animations created using data from Stella4D

The image of the truncated octahedron on the left shows the degree of mismatch resulting from the embedding of a cuboctahedron which offers a configuration of the yellow-coloured points resulting from .the intersection of the longest vertex-to-vertex connections within the polyhedron -- and indicative of the correspondence with a configuration of red-coloured points forming a cuboctahedron, or possibly a rhombicuboctahedron as indicated by the second image. It raises the question of how the cuboctahedron might be transformed to achieve a match -- or whether there are significant errors in the script generating the points. Visible in those images are intersections at a greater distance from the center which would potentially form a polyhedral concentric "inner chamber" encompassing that visualized. The images on the right show the case of the cuboctahedron with an embedded rhombicuboctahedron -- with a smaller degree of mismatch with the red intersection points between the longest vertex-to-vertex connections.

Complex Archimedean polyhedra -- indicating progressive failure of script
Rhombicuboctahedron Snub cube Icosidodecahedron
Rhombicuboctahedron with indication of longest internal space diagonals Snub with indication of second internal space diagonals Icosidodecahedron with indication of longest internal space diagonals
Animations created using data from Stella4D

The image on the left highlights apparently emerging defects in the script with missing red intersection spheres in the face patterns. It also indicates various other intersection points at greater distance from the centre which would potentially frame an encompassing polyhedron. The image at the centre indicates further failures in the script in processing orthogonal ntersections -- and suppressing red node markers.

More complex Archimedean polyhedra -- indicating progressive failure of script
Truncated cuboctahedron Truncated icosahedron Truncated dodecahedron
Truncated cuboctahedron with indication of longest internal space diagonals Truncated icosahedron  with indication of longest internal space diagonals Truncated dodecahedroon  with indication of longest internal space diagonals
Animations created using data from Stella4D

The images above and below indicate various degrees of script failure for which remedies were sought. The image below right indicates one potentially successful approach.in which processing cut-off limits were artificially imposed to achieve partial resolution

Most complex Archimedean polyhedra -- indicating progressive failure of script
Rhombicosidodecahedron Snub dodecahedron Truncated icosidodecahedron
Rhombicosidodecahedron with indication of longest internal space diagonals Snub dodecahedron with indication of longest internal space diagonals Truncated icosidodecahedron  with indication of longest internal space diagonals
Animations created using data from Stella4D

All the polyhedra were successfuly run by the script on a relatively powerful laptop (with some evident errors), and with the exception of the most complex. An extensive set of statistics was produced in each case. With increasing complexity, the process took an increasing amount of time to complete -- with the most complex failing to complete at all (prior to later modification by Claude 3.7).. ChatGPT commented on this to the effect that there had been no size-based reasons for failure in the script. However, common issues that could block completion for a 120-vertex polyhedron (like a snub dodecahedron or truncated icosidodecahedron) include:

As indicated by the visualization of the dodecahedron, the script requires modification to handle not only the more complex polyhedra but also the many concentric polyhedrs associated with space diagonals of progressively shorter length.

Summary of operation of polyhedron analysis and visualization

Claude proved vital to the progressive enhancement of the polyhedron analyzer facility over a number of days. The interaction involved several reconfigurations of the script (as envisaged by Claude) in relation to the X3D files which were generated as a means of visualizing the results and spotting defects. The focus later switched from analysis of the internal structure to how best to visualize it -- and to enable contrasting views of what proved to be a complex structure for which no one perspective was adequate.

Claude provided the following commentary during the final phases of the exchange in the light of testing on the truncated polyhedron -- understood to be of adequate complexity in anticipation of application of the approach to more complex Archimedean polyhedra.

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Testing the polyhedron analyzer on the truncated octahedron of 24 vertices, gave rise to the following results regarding its internal structure. Of primary interest had been the innermost configuration of vertex-to-vertex intersections -- those of the greatest length. Intersections were clustered into layers based on their distance from the centre of the polyhedron. These layers of intersectio points could be represented by spheres whose visibility could be selectively controlled. For a relatively simple polyhedron, it was surprising to recognize that 18 concentric layers could be detected between the innermost (clustering 12 intersection points) and the outermost (the 24 vertices of the truncated octahedron).

The analysis framed the question as to the polyhron formed by the confguration of intersection points in each layer. Thus the innermost layer of 12 intersection points could be potentially explored as an icosahedral or cuboctahedral configuration. Those of 24 points could be understood as echoing the external structure of the polyhedron.

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As indicated by the various visualization control possibilities, a major challenge was how to facilitate complementary perspectives on the complexity of the structure by selectively minimizing the visibility of what could be deemed to be clutter whilst highlighting inner structures deemed to be of interest. One additional option considered was to determine the configuration of intersection points on a layer such as to generate the faces of the polyhedon they might form. Rather than generate it, an alternative is to embed the relevant polyhedron (as illustrated in a previous exercise, an reproduced below).

Critical comment on methodological inadequacies and future possibilities

Use of the script on the initial set of 15 polyhedra generated an extensive array of analytical statistics. On inspection, given the unresolved issues in some cases, this data aroused suspicions with regards to flaws in the logic -- despite the ability to produce results of some value as visualizations. As a work in progress, the current achievement called for critical comment.

Question: Since resolving some specific issues may take time (constrained by resource limits) and there is a need to complete a provisional writeup using the generated statistics, one question is whether the statistics would be modified by remedial changes. There is a suspicion that the statistics may not be as solid as they appear -- double counting, missing elements, etc. Any comment on how solid they are.

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Question: A concern is how much "refinement" needs to be envisaged, given the difficulties in getting to this point. Seemingly most robust are the non-orthogonal cases where an X3D polyhedron can be successfully embedded within that which is generated in order to match the nodes. But the challenge of working out which polyhedron (at what shell level) is daunting at this point given the complexity of the visualizations

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Question: It is curious that there are seemingly no insights from geometric formula which would have simplified the approach to detection of concentric internal polyhedra -- in contrast to proceeding from precise coordinate data. Are you aware of such approaches. It has not proved possible e to detect any "table" distinguishing the number and variety of internal polyhedra for each of the regular set

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Question: In a later stage would it be appropriate to explore better methods with you, or might this become an unending quest for the end of the rainbow

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Fourth dimension correspondences to "internal" polyhedra?

Whilst the set of 3D polyhedra are somewhat familiar, their existence frames the question of the relevance of the approach to the potential significance of internal structures formed by their 4-dimensional analogues (regular polytopes) - notably with respect to recognition of a "cell" as a polyhedral element (3-face) of a 4-dimensional polytope (as with the much-studied 5-cell, 8-cell, 16-cell, 24-cell, 120-cell, 600-cell)

Animation and Schlegel diagrams of 4D polytope cell configurations
8-cell 16-cell 24-cell 120-cell 600-cell
8-cell animation 16-cell Schlegel diagram 24-cell Schlegel diagram 120-cell Schlegel diagram 600-cell Schlegel diagram
Created by JasonHise  Images created by Stella4D reproduced from Wikipedia

Commentary on the possibility was sought from a literature search via Perplexity.

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Possible implications are discussed separately (Comprehensible Organization of Strategic Complexity in 3D and 4D, 2024; Transformational implications of 6-fold organization in 4D, 2024; Supplementary insights from ChatGPT on mapping 64-elements onto 4D and 5D polytopes, 2023; Global mapping in 4D of interactions of competing value-goals? 2017)

Cognitive and psychosocial implications of polyhedra

As noted above, mathematics has been used in a novel way in neuroscience in the Blue Brain Project. This has shown that the human brain operates on many dimensions, not just the three dimensions to which people are accustomed.

For most people, it is a stretch of the imagination to understand the world in four dimensions but a new study has discovered structures in the brain with up to eleven dimensions - ground-breaking work that is beginning to reveal the brain's deepest architectural secrets..... these structures arise when a group of neurons forms a clique: each neuron connects to every other neuron in the group in a very specific way that generates a precise geometric object. The more neurons there are in a clique, the higher the dimension of the geometric object. ...

The appearance of high-dimensional cavities when the brain is processing information means that the neurons in the network react to stimuli in an extremely organized manner. It is as if the brain reacts to a stimulus by building then razing a tower of multi-dimensional blocks, starting with rods (1D), then planks (2D), then cubes (3D), and then more complex geometries with 4D, 5D, etc. The progression of activity through the brain resembles a multi-dimensional sandcastle that materializes out of the sand and then disintegrates. (Blue Brain Team Discovers a Multi-Dimensional Universe in Brain NetworksFrontiers Communications in Neuroscience, 12 June 2017)

As noted by Giovanna Citti and Alessandro Sati (Neurogeometry of Perception: isotropic and anisotropic aspectsAxiomathes 32, 2022):

In cognitive science and neurology, there exists a fascinating intersection where geometry meets perception, aptly termed “neurogeometry”. This interdisciplinary field seeks to understand how our brains process and interpret the visual world through geometric structures and patterns... uncovering the intricate relationship between the architecture of our brains and the geometric forms we perceive. (originally reviewed as Neurogeometry of Perception: a journey into geometric cognition, Geometry Matters, 8 June 2019).

Also of relevance:

This exercise follows from related explorations of the theme:

Commentary on related psychosocial possibilities was sought from a literature search via Perplexity.

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Commentary on use of 4 different AIs for polyhedral geometry

The geometrical challenge in three dimensions proved relatively easy to define in a manner comprehensible to AIs, even though their skills in 3D geometry are developing more slowly than might be assumed. It is appropriate to clarify the reasons for using four AIs in the exploration -- as its scope developed progressively as a generic device for analyzing the neglected inner structure of the set of Platonic and Archimedean polyhedra.

It is also appropriate to stress the relatively limited geometrical skills used by the author in prompting the AIs, and specifically with respect to the Python script they generated. The AIs were effectively used as "cognitive prosthetics" in enabling possibilities far beyond the limited competence of the author. The AIs readily suggested amendments and enhancements in response to bugs and inadequacies in the generation of X3D files by which the analysis of the internal structures could be visualized (using H3DViewer or FreeWRL). The Python script became progressively more complex (and relatively incomprehensible to a non-professioal), in contrast with the structure of the generated X3D file (familiar from previous exercises).

Each AI was "enthusiastic" about the exploration. Unfortunately the AIs were relatively insensitive to the possibility that amendments made in response to one problem might engender problems in relation to other features -- an issue exacerbated by an inbuilt AI assumption that it could fruitfully address any challenge. This contrasts somewhat with the precautious engineering adage: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The unforeseen consequence was that the iterative development and testing over an extensive period became less and less productive, notably through incorporating unproductive "fixes". Since AIs do not learn from such mistakes, especially problematic was the sense that development progressively entered an unproductive cycle (potentially comparable with the classic image of a dog chasing its tail) -- exacerbated by the accumulation of questionable code in the script.

ChatGPT was used initially, but that fruitful interaction was eventually subject to server-side delays (presumably due to the increased traffic associated with a new release). This was unfortnate because that AI conserves the history of interactions over a far longer period and does not impose resource limits. The project was then switched to DeepSeek, although this proved less useful due its preference for indicating how to structure the Python script, rather than actually generating it. DeepSeek interactions are also highly constrained -- quickly reaching a point (as noted above) where the response takes the form of: Server busy; try again later.

Given previous experience with Claude in that regard in script generation, it was then appropriate to use that facility (much favoured by professional coders). Claude had previously provided guidance in the use on a local computer of the PyCharm facility by which the Python script could be managed and run. Several challenges characterized the interaction with Claude:

During delays imposed by the Claude resource usage model, the challenge of identifying and remedying bugs in the script was partially achieved by transferring it experimentally to the Perplexity AI. This was indeed useful in identifying specific inadequacies and indicating useful changes. However some of these posed the same difficulty of identifying precisely where they should be made, so the modified script was copied back to Claude at the end of the imposed delay.

In the difficult development of the script by Claude 3.5, of some interest was the transition to Claude 3.7 -- following an upgrade in the course of the exercise. This appeared to offer greater insights in addressing defects in the generated X3D file. This continued to be subject to the resource constraints noted above. The developing script was therefore transferred back to ChatGPT which sustained an exchange over many hours in endeavouring to address the difficulties encountered. This phase also became unproductive justifying continutation of the process with Claude 3.7.

Despite the amazing support of the AIs as "cognitive prosthetics" (without which no meaningful result would have been produced), it is appropriate to offer a summary of the difficuties encountered by a non-professional in the absence of other skilled support with any degree of motivation.

Limited experience:

AI Comprehenion and continuity:

Technical considerations:

Additional features:

The complexity of the resulting script suggested prudence in its further development following this "proof-of-concept" phase -- in anticipation of critical comment from those with greater expertise. Since the script generated an extensive set of indicative data for each polyhedra, that information was therefore provisionally qualified with reservations. There is every possibility that those with greater geometrical and programming insight could improve upon the facility resulting from the above exercise -- especially with the further development of AI assistance.

The description of the original geometrical and visualization challenge can be simply made (as indicated above). Whilst the AIs engaged with that challenge, the problematic results and the progressive convergence on a viable solution (if provisional) suggest that the challenge is a useful test of AI facilities as they continue to develop. It is also a test for any programmers designing the prompts to guide the AI through the stages of such development with a view to rendering the interactive experience of users as convenient and memorable as possible.

Visual design, aesthetics, dynamics and sonification

As inferred from the literature search, there appears to be no accesible imagery of the "internal chambers" explored here. Their existence may be implied by geometry but the constraints of 2D representation inhibit any support they might provide for the imagination. Whilst the script provided a basis for their discovery and representation in 3D, the individual models generated in X3D called for manual modification to further reduce cluttter and highlight configurations of significance. Of particular relevance is the fact that the simpler models generated -- of the "innermost chambers" -- are a prelude to discovery and representation of the many which encompass them concentrically.

The models are therefore a major challenge to design -- especially as a trigger for imaginative reflection and memorability. This calls for a variety of selective considerations of colour, proportion, and the like -- preferably enhance by dynamics and even sonification. The design challenge can be recognized as one of "tuning" for the combination of script parametrs and X3D options invites recognition of the device as a kind of insrument, potentially comparable in its complexity with a musical organ, as speculatively discused separately (Envisaging a Comprehensible Global Brain -- as a Playful Organ, 2019).

The device might be developed to facilitate its interactive use, enabling users to moduify the design options according to preference. The possibility recalls the role of "multiplication tables" as a means of engaging memorably with the array of numbers. This suggests the potential value of a geometrical analogue in order to enable contrasting configurations of order to be explored -- with or without complementary sonification.

Nesting 5 Platonic polyhedra
(octahedron, icosahedron, dodecahedron, tetrahedron, cube)
Rotation of 12 Archimedean polyhedra
(in cuboctahedral array)
Polyhedral model of the solar system
(Johannes Kepler, Mysterium Cosmographicum, 1596)
Animation of rhombic triacontahedron (green)
as a "nesting framework" for polyhedral dynamics
(rotation around an omitted 13th at the centre; totalling 984 edges, 558 vertices, 452 faces)
Kepler solar systemnested polyhedra Animation of rhombic triacontahedron as nesting framework for polyhedral dynamics Rotation of cuboctahedral array of 12 Archimedean polyhedra
Reproduced from Wikipedia entry Virtual reality variants static: vrml or x3d;
mutual rotation: vrml or x3d; "pumping": vrml or x3d;
videos: "pumping" mp4; "rotation" mp4
Virtual reality variant (.wrl)

The images above suggest various design approaches to facilitate comprehension of the set of regular polyhedra as exemplars of ordered symmetry, as discussed separately (Psychosocial Implication in Polyhedral Animations in 3D, 2015). Further possibilities are suggested by jitterbug transformations and morphing between polyhedra.

Of particularl relevance is the potential cognitive significance of "cosmograms", following Kepler's early initiative in that regard, as discussed separately with images reproduced below (Nesting polyhedral configurations within cosmograms and "cosmohedra", 2023; F. M. Velásquez-Fernández, et al Construction and Analysis of Kepler’s Cosmographic Mystery, for Learning the Platonic Solids Using Mathematica. Proceedings of Seventh International Congress on Information and Communication Technology. Lecture Notes in Networks and Systems, 448. 2023

The symmetry preserving operations (associated with the Conway polyhedron notation) can be understood as related to the challenge of memetic compactification, as discussed separately (Closest packing of concepts and compactification of insight, 2023; Harmonizing dissonance via polyhedral symmetry-preserving operations, 2024). One approach to representation is through the cosmogram (Nettrice R. Gaskins, Semantic Symbology: the evolution and amplification of cosmograms, Journal of Visual Art Practice, 20, 2021, 3). In 3D these may be experimentally depicted as nested polyhedra, reproduced below (Polyhedral cosmograms as Rosetta Stones -- cosmohedra? 2023).

Animations of a variety of "Leonardo Cosmograms"
(with suggestive attribution of 6 distinct cognitive modalities on left)
Rotation of Leonardo Cosmogram in 3D with cognitive modalities Rotation of Leonardo Cosmogram in 3D Rotation of Leonardo Cosmogram in 3D Rotation of Leonardo Cosmogram in 3D
Animations prepared with the aid of Stella Polyhedron Navigator

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